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Jon Templeton
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Post by Reader Tue Nov 08, 2016 10:42 am

Confirming this. Rules say keep highest, I allow flexibility. You can't select your DoS and automatically downgrade - need to be able to generate it from actual dice rolled.
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Post by Theomore Tullison Tue Nov 08, 2016 10:49 am

Rules are actually unclear on it, the first place it pops up it just say discard X amount of dice, the second place they say keep the best dice. Probably they didn't even consider that someone would *want* to not keep the highest dices. Penalty dice, on the other hand, just says cancels out a test dice.
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Post by Baelon Drakeson Wed Nov 09, 2016 3:06 pm

Lady Corrine Marsten wrote:Had you married Ser Theomore, you would have to get used to sharing, and I've yet to meet a woman who is comfortable with that."
Clearly Corrine has never been to Dorne. Laughing
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Post by Lady Corrine Marsten Wed Nov 09, 2016 3:48 pm

Baelon wrote:
Lady Corrine Marsten wrote:Had you married Ser Theomore, you would have to get used to sharing, and I've yet to meet a woman who is comfortable with that."
Clearly Corrine has never been to Dorne. Laughing

Indeed she has not.
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Post by Lady Corrine Marsten Wed Nov 09, 2016 3:49 pm

Though, even if she had, Dorne's approach is not the same as Theomore's. Polyamory and philandering are not the same thing. :;
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Post by Baelon Drakeson Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:38 pm

Lady Corrine Marsten wrote:Though, even if she had, Dorne's approach is not the same as Theomore's. Polyamory and philandering are not the same thing. :;
):
Well, no... but if Floretta was comfortable with sharing Theo, wouldn't that make it the same?

Besides, just because a Theo was promiscuous before marriage does not mean he will continue to be so after.
Take a look at Baelon. He has a young attractive woman all but begging to sleep with him, and he's not cheating on Gwyn. Promiscuity may be a violation of social values, but that is very different from breaking one's marriage vows.
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Post by Lady Corrine Marsten Wed Nov 09, 2016 6:39 pm

Corrine doesn't know how Floreta feels, and doesn't trust Theo, so she has made the assumptions that make sense for her as a character.
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Post by Reader Wed Nov 09, 2016 9:15 pm

Baelon wrote:
Lady Corrine Marsten wrote:Though, even if she had, Dorne's approach is not the same as Theomore's. Polyamory and philandering are not the same thing. :;
):
Well, no... but if Floretta was comfortable with sharing Theo, wouldn't that make it the same?

Besides, just because a Theo was promiscuous before marriage does not mean he will continue to be so after.
Take a look at Baelon. He has a young attractive woman all but begging to sleep with him, and he's not cheating on Gwyn. Promiscuity may be a violation of social values, but that is very different from breaking one's marriage vows.

I'll get you in an intrigue yet Baelon! *Need a shaking fist emoji"


Hopefully Lady Kerry Blackwood (nee Bracken) is a fun experiment in the complications of "
charming"
people and doesn't feel like the narrator spitefully screwing a player.

No reason it can't be both I suppose.
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Post by Theomore Tullison Wed Nov 09, 2016 9:27 pm

Knowing Theomore, he would make a very strong effort to stay faithful to Ayleth.

Also, knowing Theomore, that might not be enough.

Floreta? We'll see, various events has given him a new perspective on things, Theomore might actually become even more dangerous and ruthless than before, but at the same time holding himself to a higher moral standard.

Black and White is for suckers.
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Post by Baelon Drakeson Wed Nov 09, 2016 9:32 pm

Reader wrote:Hopefully Lady Kerry Blackwood (nee Bracken) is a fun experiment in the complications of "
charming"
people and doesn't feel like the narrator spitefully screwing a player.

No reason it can't be both I suppose.

It exploits a weakness in my character. A weakness that I built into the character and expected to be exploited. What's the point of weaknesses otherwise?
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Post by Lady Corrine Marsten Wed Nov 09, 2016 10:02 pm

Promiscuity does violate the marriage vows. Also, don't get judgy at Corrine for her deeply held beliefs.
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Post by Baelon Drakeson Wed Nov 09, 2016 10:41 pm

Lady Corrine Marsten wrote:Promiscuity does violate the marriage vows.
Certainly it violates marriage vows, but only after those vows have been made (assuming traditional vows, at least).
Before marriage... how can you violate a vow that has not (and might never be) made?

Lady Corrine Marsten wrote:Also, don't get judgy at Corrine for her deeply held beliefs.
Oh, I'm not, and I apologize if anything I said sounded that way. What she said was quite in character.

Really, my enjoyment of her remark lay in that (most of) the seven kingdoms is an island of Andal sexual values in a sea of polygamy, polyamory, and promiscuity. Corrine's remark was a perfect reflection of the mistaken view that Andal customs are "
normal"
when on a global scale they really are quite abnormal. It's the cultural attitude I find amusing, not that Corrine holds that view.
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Post by Lady Corrine Marsten Wed Nov 09, 2016 10:50 pm

I was only speaking about vows that had been made. She was expressing a loose prediction of future behaviour. She doesn't approve of premarital encounters either, but that's a different thing and she's a bit prudish that way. She considers promiscuity, in or out of marriage, to be a negative reflection of one's moral character, though not enough to give anyone serious grief for it (with the exception of her husband).

She does have a lot of narrow ideas about the world, having been so sheltered. She's progressive in some ways, but really backward in others.
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Post by Theomore Tullison Wed Nov 09, 2016 11:13 pm

Corrine had a premaritial affair (with the man she was about to marry, but still), so pfffft.
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Post by Baelon Drakeson Wed Nov 09, 2016 11:20 pm

Lady Corrine Marsten wrote:She does have a lot of narrow ideas about the world, having been so sheltered. She's progressive in some ways, but really backward in others.
In my opinion that dichotomy is her most interesting character trait. You do a good job expressing both sides with her without letting them come in obvious direct conflict.
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Post by Lady Corrine Marsten Wed Nov 09, 2016 11:55 pm

Theomore Tullison wrote:Corrine had a premaritial affair (with the man she was about to marry, but still), so pfffft.

No she didn't. She was courted before she was married, but she didn't have sex with anyone.
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Post by Lady Corrine Marsten Wed Nov 09, 2016 11:56 pm

And before the "
first wedding wasn't official"
, it was. Unless you want to declare all marriages in the North invalid.
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Post by Lady Corrine Marsten Thu Nov 10, 2016 12:00 am

Baelon wrote:
Lady Corrine Marsten wrote:She does have a lot of narrow ideas about the world, having been so sheltered. She's progressive in some ways, but really backward in others.
In my opinion that dichotomy is her most interesting character trait. You do a good job expressing both sides with her without letting them come in obvious direct conflict.

Thank you. For me, it's largely because she doesn't notice the dichotomy, so thoroughly has she been trained to think of her position as deserved.
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Post by Loreia Thu Nov 10, 2016 12:36 am

Eloping usually isn't seen as official.
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Post by Nathaniel Mason Thu Nov 10, 2016 12:41 am

Loreia wrote:Eloping usually isn't seen as official.

But it's often seen as far more romantic. Very Happy
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Post by Lady Corrine Marsten Thu Nov 10, 2016 12:42 am

It is though, if conducted by a religious official. They did get a Septon to do it.

This all seems to be taking a relatively casual comment IC a bit far.
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Post by Lady Corrine Marsten Thu Nov 10, 2016 12:43 am

Nathaniel Mason wrote:
Loreia wrote:Eloping usually isn't seen as official.

But it's often seen as far more romantic. Very Happy

Agreed.
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Post by Reader Thu Nov 10, 2016 7:25 am

Nathaniel Mason wrote:
Loreia wrote:Eloping usually isn't seen as official.

But it's often seen as far more romantic. Very Happy

Indeed, and Corrine is very young (and was younger still in 124).

Corrine is reasonably traditional on a number of issues and a Black. Jon Roxton is fairly progressive on a number of issues and a Green.

There are a range of motives (politics, family loyalty, love, religion, oaths sworn etc) for being on either side.
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Post by Lady Corrine Marsten Thu Nov 10, 2016 10:16 am

And now I'm in a Roxton reverie. Thanks. Razz
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Post by Reader Thu Nov 10, 2016 5:27 pm

Forget the civil war. Next story will be. A trippy dream sequence "
rod ton reverie"
. Very Happy

I liked the nightmares from story 1!
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